On the centralized side, I think it's just been historic time to build some of this infrastructure. In 2018, if you were a crypto custodian and you wanted to just mark your customer books, you didn't even have a reference rate for something like that. So nowadays in the public blockchain space, so we just kind of have a top down category by category view of the categories that have to exist. We try to find the best teams in those categories.

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