You can't conquer a country with the 100, the sides of Ukraine, with 190,000 troops. They were invading it from all corners and headed towards the capital. I think they were trying to get the Ukrainian government to basically change its policy vis-a-vis the west. The issue that was on the table was Ukrainian neutrality. And it's quite clear that what happened is that the U.S., operating through Boris Johnson, made it clear to the Ukrainians that we didn't want them to cut a deal with Russians.