This is actually sort of like the next stage of the downfall. There's this great new yorker article by friend of the show helen rosner, interview people at joy of king about what it felt like to be the target of this study and sort of trying to debunk it for years. The world wasn't ready. And then they do this whole thing about, it's kind of absurd to say that portion sizes have increased when most recipes in the book aren't meant to be eaten all at once. Like one of the recipes that he sort of says, like, has gotten bigger over the ears as gumbo. It's like a big ass pot of gumboye

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