The Importance of Listening to the Audience

I think of what we do when we build a song for an audience with loops and stuff as suggesting a um a pattern for people and then violating it in some way by spinning it or finding a new way to approach it. When you get to that space of like it's actually shared vulnerability shared fragility with the audience you know sometimes you're just as bloody scared as they. We can actually bring the audience into our safe fear and actually be vulnerable together and then when you find a way out of it yeah.