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17. Samin Nosrat Always Wanted to Be Famous

The Freakonomics Radio Book Club

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What's Your Real Long Term Self?

I think I can try to learn to trust myself a little bit. The like, let me call everybody and see it. That's my real self as my therapist would say. How does that real self get scared off? What are the factors that make that real self less secure or kind of disappear? Like comparing myself to what everyone else in the world is doing,. Trying to figure out how do I make the thing that makes everyone happy? And I know there's actually nothing that's going to make everyone happy.

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I mean, are you using it in the next
Speaker 1
book? That was like the base recipe for the new proposal, but I know myself. I was like, I have to sit with this quietly for a while because my thing is normally I have the idea and I need to make 400 phone calls and tell everybody. And this is a good idea. And I was like, okay, what if I don't do that this time? That's why I also right now I don't want to tell you too much. You know what I mean? Because normally I would tell you everything in the whole world. But that's why I was like, what if I just sit with this for a couple months? Wow.
Speaker 2
Where
Speaker 1
do you think that instinct or ability came from therapy? I think I can try to learn to trust myself a little bit. The like, let me call everybody and see it. Do you like this idea? Do you like this idea? That's the part of me that maybe the study is talking to. When the responder is saying like, oh, I'm too afraid. So I probably shouldn't write a book. They're talking to that part of me, right? But then the part of me that can say, oh, you know what? Let's be quiet for a little while and sit with this and see what we feel like what I feel deep inside and what's useful for myself to make. That's my real self as my therapist
Speaker 2
would say. That's your real long term self or that's your real self of recent vintage?
Speaker 1
No, that's my real long term self has
Speaker 2
always been.
Speaker 1
Yes, has always been will always be. That's my real creative self. That's my real
Speaker 2
voice. How does that real self get scared off or I don't mean to make it such a negative image, but no, it's fine. What are the factors that make that real self less secure or kind of
Speaker 1
disappear Instagram? Like comparing myself to what everyone else in the world is doing, trying to figure out how do I make the thing that makes everyone happy? And I know there's actually nothing that's going to make everyone happy. And so actually the only thing I can do is make the thing that I need to make from the inside of my heart.

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