The Conflict Between Shamanism and Ecstasy

I wonder if there's a conflict between what you described earlier as shamanism relating to ecstasy and a kind of like ecstasy is a sort of frenzied state almost. I've seen footage and read about charmans who work themselves up into a frenzy and put hot coals in their hands or in their mouth and do these kind of frenzies things. How do those two the states conflict with one another and in this dramatic practice? Well a very good point uh and um traditionally shamans is somebody who goes into that state of ecstasy and it is typically very wild like the leading up to that can be a very wild dance and drumming and the singing and that is where the shaman