Speaker 1
And the question should be why not yeah the question
Speaker 2
shouldn't be yo why is he doing everything it should be why aren't you why aren't you trying to do everything why not well that's the thing about a guy like you that becomes contagious like what you were saying about surrounding yourself with positive people and people that are constantly ambitious and that that there's fuel to that you feel good about that that's what you're doing i can say seeing
Speaker 1
you here, right? We walked around. You showed me your facility. Loved it. Beautiful facility. You talked to me about how your podcast has grown to where you are now, the success behind it. I don't leave here and go, yo, that's dope as shit. I go, hey, I need to do more work on my radio station. Laugh Out Loud Radio, I own it. It's mine. I got a show on there. But you know what? Joe fucking motivated me to do more. I want to make sure that we understand really what's out here within this radio world because I just saw my guy in his space and I saw how happy he is with the success that he has I don't want to be you or beat you I want to take this energy and apply it to myself that's the purpose of seeing yeah
Speaker 1
the purpose of being smart with your eyeballs you should be a sponge so I'm a sponge So I come here and I look at how you maneuver. I look at your setup. I not only bow down and congratulate you. I leave and I say, yo, man, I'm inspired, dude. That's dope as hell. Joe, I can't wait in two years. You're going to come and you're going to see my shit. You remember I said I was inspired, but you're going to see what I let it grow into. That's the proper way to get encouraged and motivated.
Speaker 2
Right, as opposed to being a
Speaker 1
hater. A hater and and competitive and
Speaker 2
i'm gonna beat you it's not a competition yeah i'm not interested in that either i share the exact same feelings it's
Speaker 1
not a competition at all
Speaker 2
yeah so if you don't have people like that that are inspiring around you you might not know how positive it is and how 100 how powerful it is if you see someone that's on television or on social media and you see them it's hard to be inspired you don't know them but you're i can say look at your circle right and in
Speaker 1
your circle if the conversation is all about what we hate i can't stand that song you see that new fucking car came out okay that shit ass. I can't stand that fucking car. Yo, man. I can't stand this city. Why the fuck we even in this city? What we eating? I hate that place. It's so easy. People don't even listen to it. It's so easy. It could be the smallest shit in the world. The smallest shit. But if it's always hate. Can't stand these fucking headphones. Why we got these headphones? I hate these. Fucking hardwood hardwood tape why is it i can't stand this hardwood tape i hate hardwood why could you get a regular tape i fucking hate this shit fucking chairs you ain't got better chairs i hate these chairs it's
Speaker 2
so easy right so easy it's
Speaker 1
so easy to talk about yeah yeah
Speaker 1
many people don't realize that in a group, you do it. You ping pong hate off of one another. Yeah. Unless it's funny. It can be funny hate. Sometimes good hate. Funny hate is just between yourselves. Like Patrice? Patrice was one of the best. Funny hate. One of the best funny haters. Okay. Okay. You bring up a good point. Comedic hate is a different kind of hate. Yeah. Comedic hate. Rest in peace, Patrice O'Neal. Rest in peace. One of the, not one of the, probably the best. Patrice used to do. I remember when I would talk and if I was saying something, you would just hear. What? What are you talking about? He's like, ugh. What? What are you talking about? He's like, just the way you talk bugs me. I was like, what? Your voice. Everything about your voice just makes me want to punch you in the face. I was like, what are you talking about? He's like, ugh. When
Speaker 2
he would go after you, too, it kind of made you feel good, too. Like, if you're a comic especially if you're a comic like uh i called opie and anthony once i was talking to them and anthony anthony always has a gun on him he carries a gun everywhere like he has a concealed carry permit and shit and i said to him i said do you ever worry that maybe you're putting out this energy and you're manifesting something like some sort of an attack on you because you're constantly dwelling on it you always have this gun and patrice goes joe believe in magic joe believe he conjuring up the world hey man a positive energy just starts laughing see he's magic joe's magic and i'm like, when he would go after you, man, it was like you just want to step back and watch. I remember
Speaker 1
he got Bill Burr so mad one time. Oh, Bill used to get so fucking mad. Beautiful thing about Bill Burr, but we'd be snapping Bill. Bill was the guy that would get mad. It's not funny. If you went after him. None of it's funny. Y'all laughing. Bill like where's the punchline in it there's no punchline he'll get so fucking mad we the comedy seller the days that we had there man bill burr patrice o'neill keith robinson jim norton colin quinn myself um when i say we would sit at this table we would sit at this table for four to five hours and it would be nothing but beautiful trash-ins to one another when I say they used to give me so much shit that's probably why it's so hard to bother me now the trash-ins that I took from the age 20 to 24 in my young comedic career about how awful I was. I had a joke. I had a joke way in the beginning of my career because of the times. Let me preface this. This was way in the beginning of my career. This was a joke that I had about about little people, midgets at the time. And, you know, so bad. It was like I got robbed by a cross-eyed midget. And the joke was, I didn't know he was robbing me because I was with somebody else. So he was looking at my friend, but he was robbing me. It was like a play on being cross-eyed. It was a very, very awful joke. I remember telling this joke and a phone book comes flying on the stage. Patrice threw a fucking phone book at me. I'm talking, this is where we're at the Boston Comedy Club. It's people in a crowd. Tiny little place. All you heard was and you see bat! It hits the floor. And I said, yo what the fuck was that and Patrice said read it there's better material in it than what you're saying now crowd starts laughing he's they all when i say they used to trash me so bad so bad man uh get your legendary patrice o'neill story i caught patrice jerking off in my house before this is this is i moved to la i'm staying in the two-bedroom apartment i just got there patrice coming out i said yo you need to play sass i got two bedrooms. You can come there. This was my ex-wife at the time. I come home. It's like afternoon. Patrice. I'm like, yo, you home? Patrice. Patrice. I go in the back. Open up the door. I had this big ass computer. All I see is his back hunched over. It's like baby oil right here. And I come in, I'm like, yo, what you doing? He's like, yo, get out, get out, get out. Are you jerking off of my house, man? He's so sick. He's so fucking sick that he didn't stop. He's like, get out, get out. He was so concerned with finishing that he didn't even break stride. He didn't turn around and acknowledge me nothing. Get out. Get out. You just saw his back hunched. He came out like seven minutes later. He was like, my bad. I didn't know he was coming home. Didn't even acknowledge. Fucking Patrice, man. I love him to death. Love him to death.
Speaker 2
Yeah, he had the most don't give a fuck of any comic I ever met. 100%. Like the most.
Speaker 1
100%. Good and bad, though. Yeah. You know, there was good to it and there was also some bad to, you know, a lot of things that didn't happen for Patrice probably could have happened, but I think the level of not give a fuck prevented some of those
Speaker 2
things. Well, he was almost too authentic. Yes. Like his, like, did you ever see that? Was it Charlie Sheen's roast? Whose roast was it that he did where he just tortured everybody
Speaker 1
else that was on the roast with him? And then he got up there and afterwards he was like, you motherfuckers
Speaker 2
aren't on my level? Why am I here? Why am
Speaker 1
I here? I shouldn't even be here with you guys. Who the fuck is this bitch? Who is this bitch oh my god patrice has so many of those things yeah so many things one of one of the best to do it uh if you if you are listening you're not educated on patrice o'neill just i i i ask that you just watch uh elephant in the room one of his specials yeah some of the some of the
Speaker 2
funniest shit ever man and so insightful he was so wise very very smart the way people thought and behaved he would say shit like one of the things that he said that i i tell people all the time it's a it's a brilliant thing that he said it was um i forget what controversy it was but he was on television with some woman who was saying that you should never tell jokes about certain things you know and they were they were getting mad at someone i think it was opie and anthony about a joke and he said you got to understand that all jokes come from the same place the ones you like and the ones you don't like the ones that make you laugh and the ones that make you mad they all come from the same place someone's just trying to be funny yeah like sometimes they just don't work i i had a talk with
Speaker 1
the, I forgot her name. I forgot her name, but it was when I was doing all the promo for Upside and they kept trying to break down, you know, where the jokes come from. You know, Kevin, these insensitive jokes that you told back then. Why? What makes you, why would you even say those things? And the hardest thing for me to explain, I was like, do you think people think of jokes and while thinking of them, think that they're not going to be funny? Everything that you think of in a joke form, you're thinking of it because you think you're going to get a laugh behind it. The gamble is if I get the laugh versus not get the laugh. If I don't get the laugh, the joke was not funny. If I get a laugh, then I guess I'm on to something. There isn't a bunch of thought that goes into the funny moments that we think may be great bits. I wish that I had a more logical to put behind it i said but i don't especially at that time in my career i just thought it would be funny the same way that some people think certain jokes funny they're not funny it's a thought comedians are constantly throwing shit out there yeah you're constantly rolling the dice and throwing shit out there half the shit you roll ain't good right It's not going to be good. The other half may be all right. May be kind of good. But it's all with the intent of entertaining. It's not with the intent of being malicious. It's not with the intent of sparking hatred. It's all trying to make you laugh. Yeah. That's it. Like it's literally that simple from a thought within a comedian's mind yeah nothing nothing else and they kept trying to look for this like hard definition of why and i was like i don't have it i don't have the reason why i thought it would be funny and it wasn't that's
Speaker 2
the downfall that's it that's it that's it And the thing is about this art form is that up until 10, 15 years ago, there was never any discussion like this. It wasn't. So when we developed and when we were coming up, there was no, it was just like, and there was always guys that would push the envelope way too far. He'd be like, Jesus Christ, you see his new bit? What the fuck? Yeah. And you'd be laughing. Yeah. You'd tell it to each other and be like, ah. Yeah. And it didn't matter what it was. It was a joke about murder or rape or whatever. Some people just, they choose those dark subjects. It's like they're trying to make us laugh. Yeah. The comedian's comedian. There's always going to be those. Where you just end up at you, ooh. Do know brian holtzman 100 yeah brian holtzman's that guy 100
Speaker 1
one of my funniest dudes and and and there's no way that i could say no some of the stuff that i heard me say do you remember susan smith that lady who drowned her kids i i know i know who you're talking about yeah and i know the moment but i'm not familiar with all all that involved
Speaker 2
holtzman was on stage that week and he's like i heard those kids were bad oh my god i heard they sat that close to the tv they never put away their blocks they always spilt their milk those kids will not be missed yeah and you were just like what in the fuck it's
Speaker 1
like 9-11 when 9-11
Speaker 2
happened they wouldn't let him on stage well mitzi shore would not let him on stage for months after 9-11. She's like, no way. Keep him off the stage. I mean, do you have
Speaker 1
the people that just are, they go for that. They go for it because they want to hear you howling in
Speaker 2
the back of the room. They know that if it's comics are there in the back of the room, they're going to laugh their fucking ass off at that shit.
Speaker 1
And, you know, it's weird because right now within the times, I'm the comedian that chooses to be sensitive to the times. You know, I've made the choice to say, I understand. I get why you shouldn't say certain things or why you should avoid this, that or this. I understand. And I am. But then there's other comedians that go, you know what? I'm on stage. I'm going to be me. And I'm not going to do that because people are telling me that this is what I I'm going to go harder. Yeah. And do that. That just exists. It just exists. But I think it's easier to just say, I'm not a fan. That comedy isn't for me. You know what? I don't like the taste of this particular comedian, so I'm not going to support or watch that comedian. I'm going to find another comedian that's more to my liking. I'm going to go and just turn my head. Like, I want us to get back to just understanding that you just don't have to support
Speaker 2
it. Yeah. That's it. Well, there's a lot of fucking options. It's very. I mean, there's so many. Today? Yeah, there's so many. There's never been more. Never been more comics. There's so many. Like high level comics.
Speaker 1
Think about how many people are doing Netflix specials today. There's so many. There's never been more. It's so many. Crazy. So I don't understand why there's a push to destroy, which you just don't have to support or
Speaker 2
like. I think it's just a bunch of people that have an ability to influence things now that didn't have an ability before. And it's like they see a window and they want to throw a rock. It's right there. Makes sense. Makes sense. I think there's something that but i also think for us like me for me in particular i really like fucked up comedy it's one of my it's like i like quentin tarantino movies where people get shot and killed i don't want anybody to get shot and killed in real life yeah but i like fucked up comedy yeah do you know tim dylan is
Speaker 2
Pull up that fucking video of him being Meghan McCain. Have you seen this? No. I'm laughing already now. He is a savage dude. He goes so hard. But I saw this video. Tears are rolling down my eyes. I was crying. And I was like, okay, this guy's needed. We need this right now. Because during this political correct push you got this big giant gay dude who doesn't give a fuck he's an animal i want to see watch this shit my father died i had a baby with him and we're going to it will be raised in captivity it'll be raised privately to be the greatest politician that has ever lived my name is megan mccain and i'm on a news show you have to see this too, folks. You want this shit? You wanna fuck these tits Trump? You wanna fuck these tits? No you don't. You wanna suck cots. But I won't fuck you because the only person I'll fuck is daddy. I'll fuck his corpse. I'll fuck daddy's corpse. Before my father died, I had a baby. Wait a minute. He's an animal, bro. He's an animal. Wait a minute. He's wearing, folks, you don't know, he's wearing lipstick and a wig and he's smoking a cigarette in a dress and he's all of 300 pounds. He's such a fucking animal. He
Speaker 1
is such a fucking animal. You want to fuck TV?
Speaker 2
No, you told me you just want to suck on.
Speaker 1
I don't want to fuck you because
Speaker 2
I only fucked daddy. Wow.
Speaker 1
Oh, my goodness. That's pretty damn. That's what I'm saying. It's out there. They need that guy. We need him. It's out there. We need guys like that.
