Have you ever been asked by a non-product person “what is it that you actually do?” We are sure you have! We know we and many of our friends have been through this, and it’s never an easy task to explain. Moreover, don’t you sometimes feel that people you work with - your teammates, stakeholders, and even your boss - don’t always understand what a Product Manager job really is? That was the exact problem our guest in this episode was about to solve. And the solution she built is… a children's book!

Meet Tami Reiss, product leader and founder of Leader Within, where she conducts keynote speaking, training, workshops, exec coaching and more! Tami wrote the book “What do Product Managers Do?A primer for aspiring PMs of all ages and parents who aren't sure it's a real job”, due to be released May 15th.Inspired by her own children, the book is a rhyming introduction to leadership and influence. Packaged with beautiful illustrations by V Lubow, and a dictionary with simple definitions of the terms we take for granted, this book does a great - and entertaining - job in explaining what we do, who we work with, some of our challenges and more.

Join Matt and Moshe as we chatted with Tami about:

- Her background in product and leadership
- How she got to write the book
- Building the book as a product
- Product Management lessons learned from working on the book
- A/B testing and user testing - testing the stanza and words in the book
- The complexity of the terms and words we are using
- Her vision for the book and how it can help all of us product people
- How would AI impact the job of PMs and the team in the future
- When is the best time for inspiration for new ideas?
- The importance of humility - even to admit that the data might be wrong
- Listen to some fun stanza read by Tami, and how much meaning they pack in a few words
- What does “dream” means (in the product context) and why is it important for product people to share it
- Where can you get the book once it’s out
- And much more!
You can connect with Tami at:

- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ta.../
- Website: http://tamireiss.com/
- Join the book’s waitlist: https://theleaderwith.in/book
- Watch the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...=qbLq73dKOCA
You can find the podcast’s page, and connect with Matt and Moshe on Linkedin:

- http://linkedin.com/company/pr... linkedin.com/company/product-for-product-podcast
- https://www.linkedin.com/in/ma... - linkedin.com/in/mattgreenproduct/
- http://www.linkedin.com/in/mik... - linkedin.com/in/mikanovsky/

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