i think if you apply the climate emergency lens to a lot of what you're saying, and again, take your children with you on that, i'm standing up for ecause i believe in it. We cannot afford any more rain for us to beat choknow. This is an emergency. People need to understand that. And then you get back to nature connection,. they then want to help, want to join in and want to be part of it and feel good about decision rather than it being negative.

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