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Episode 55 | Nicholson Baker

Dialogues: The David Zwirner Podcast

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The Importance of Human Smoke

David Perry: Human smoke is a book that helps me hold on to precisely that human moment of the diary entry. And perhaps being shattered is, I don't know the path to that space and it's counterintuitive, right? You would think that throwing a party would help us get to our common humanity,. But perhaps it's precisely this moment of, of being shattered and having to navigate something that feels impossible that is the thing that connects you to that human to human ethical connection.

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