I'm a very big believer of bringing metrics and data to conversations. But there's a danger with them where people will start talking about the metric more than anything else. And I have to take a, I'm gonna pick a bone with a lot of companies out there who are building tools and products because your business is entirely incentivized to try to make people be that person. Right? This is what we see. Docker captains, I love Docker in the early days, like many people, and it was an incredible strategy for them to make people to Docker captain. Oh, it's a great strategy. It's agreat strategy. And what does it become? Exactly. The intended consequences

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