Working alongside of an ID can be intimidating. What we, what I say to IDs is go back and explain how you arrived at what you're saying. It's one of the most painful things for me because I know I do it. And so once somebody says something really good, really, they should take my interrupting as a compliment. But even Karen is sitting here saying that loop is is very quick and it's invisible. So nobody sees it. The other annoying thing that you do in meetings. Oh, because they have the idea and they have to get it out. Yes. Well, insane. Hey, you've provoked another idea in me. Idea in me helps me understand