Why Black People Aren't as Bright as Others

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Anti-racism often has effects that are bad for the precise groups it is fighting for, says John Sutter. In schools where people take anti races counsel into account more black kids get beat up and teachers can't do their jobs properly because they're not seen as 'white' He also criticizes an obsession with how white people don't see you in your full essence or what its effects might be.

John McWhorter is an author, a member of the Persuasion Board of Advisors, a Columbia University linguist, and a columnist for The New York Times. His latest book, Woke Racism: How a New Religion Has Betrayed Black America, argues that we must understand wokeness, quite literally, as a religion.

In this week’s conversation, John McWhorter and Yascha Mounk discuss the nature of today’s social progressivism, whether it constitutes a religion, and how we can actually help to reduce racial disparities in the United States.

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