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20 sand herts has reached a hundred and 50 episodes. To celebrate the occasion, i wanted to pull back the curtain of my life before this podcast. This week you'll hear part of a discussion had with my friend jordan over on his podcast,. The episode is going to sound completely different than our normal show. It's a lot more conversational and very fast paced. But jordan is a fantastic interviewer and does a really great job of asking thoughtful questions that people ask me often.

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