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Ep 63: Eddie Margain on Fleeing Mexico, Preserving Rule of Law & Building Austin FC

Joe Lonsdale: American Optimist

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The Importance of Hobbies for Leaders

I'm fascinated lately with what people do to kind of recharge themselves. I was with Elon earlier recently and he's just like exhausted from doing all these things at once. When you have your Churchill statue here, he actually wrote a book called painting as a pastime. And he says the most important thing that a leader can have is a hobby. He says they must have at least one or two hobbies. They have to be real. So watching memes is not a good enough hobby has to be something has to be like what he's making. But it has been like cycling or camping or you know fishing or you know maybe it's stamp collecting like it should be a physical thing that you

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