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Part 2: When Being Released Hurts

Leading Saints Podcast

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Transitioning Out of the Presidency Calling

I just love the, the super casualness of like, hey, let's just quickly get together and recognize that this was something that happened and it was beautiful. And they were very kind about not talking about, about my service. I think there was maybe a joke or two at the beginning that, you know, was actually funny. We all laughed. And then we just chatted about whatever came to mind the rest of the night. Yeah, it was very, very helpful.

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