i used to do sort of main stream, standard physics back in the late 19 seventies, early 19 eighties. i had been working on building my first computer language as a forerunner of mathematical mortan language. And so that experience got me into this idea of just figure out the most minimal model and see what it does. That's what i was trying to do with salerautometa. Because that was and is not evident by no means self-sustaining or anything like that. I mean, that'ssort of the ultimate type of idea. No, just make it, you know, absolutely minimal. Now we'll talk about some other neat ideas now that we

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