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I Learned by Programming
I wanted to be a psychiatrist for a long time. I was fascinated by the human mind until I discovered artificial intelligence, the fact that I could program and make a robot move. So all of those, because of my interest in Freud and Jung, you're also in different ways have delved deeply into humanity through the perspective of those psychologists. And so all of that provides the implicit substructure for the play in the conversation. It's not like this came about by accident, this conversation. You spent all this time framing it. We know games need rules or there's no play.