I think it goes back to that in the sense that I assume that these kinds of shadows are going to accompany me wherever I go because I'm a human being. And so it's more about how I engage with them. So in that case if it's and I'm not saying I do everything that I'm afraid of. I really don't. But if it's connected to something that's crucial, then I think, well, I have to find a way through this and pet that wolf and just befriended a bed or however we want to put it. That actually points to this is my heart's deepest longing.

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