There was venrock of course and ivp one of the early Institutional firm David we have to quick history on venrock because listeners are gonna care about this What is the rock in venrock? It would be rock-a-feller. And then there were a couple other Venture firms that you've probably never heard of, but they don't exist anymore. Among those were two called technology venture investors or tv i which had one very notable investment One very very notable investment that we'll talk about in one sec. Another one meryl pickard anderson and air just so happened To share the same office building on sandhill road amazing They shared 2480 sandhill road part of the

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