The Cave Ceiling and the Outside World

Johnny: I've found myself being compelled by those types of stories a lot. There is an outside world that could or could not be what they're being portrayed as so the people were going inside scene outside they see the thought of an outside world through windows but you're pretty much informed right away that's not exactly what's going on. 90 percent of my shows are just replacing the physical part with the with the mental part and then science or magic arcana or supernatural causes them to feel like they've gone outside so fringe is normal.