I think the younger guys who are coming through you know some of the younger companies I see them collaborating and working together. That shit didn't happen 20 years ago. People don't really understand that like back in the day it was fucking straight up fuck you war. There's too much jealousy too much divide and now it's people are figuring out well hold on dude you're doing the same thing I'm doing it's hard. Hey how about we help each other get better? "We come from a car culture. We love cars"