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Did You Have More Anxiety When You Were Starting a Company?
The more successful we got I think the more anxious I became. It became harder and harder to sleep. We were approached or you began conversations with Spotify to acquire Gimlet. They made an offer reportedly more than 230 million dollars a really big offer. And so we thought that for podcasting to become like as an industry, becomes to realize it's full potential those two things had to be addressed," he said.