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The 2022 Holberg Debate on Ukraine, Russia, China and the West.

Holberg Prize Talks

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The Russians Are Weak in International Politics

"We ignored what they said, and we continued pushing to bring Ukraine into NATO," he says. "That's what happens when you're weak in international politics." He adds that from the Russian perspective, this is an existential threat. 'They have to win this war. They cannot afford to lose it'

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