Shaye: I went to paris, and i a, i basically said to him, listen, im, i'm writing a book about the impact of your ideas on popular culture where everybody was making something of is this man's idea different things. And he, you know, i think he saw me in french. There's an expression your lidioliv de vilage. Mean, sort of like, not a village idiot exactly, but some sort of naive,. Like and he, he, who has a reputation for great opacity, saidyl, explain. I'll explain this to you. He was actually a very sensitive and very kind teacher to me. Then i tried, in

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