Outro

What does faithful leadership look like when navigating organizational turbulence? In this episode, Dan sits down with pastor, author, and current president of The Gospel Coalition Mark Vroegop to explore the hard-won lessons that emerge from leading through difficulty.

Mark brings a rare combination of perspectives: from shepherding College Park Church in Indianapolis through seasons of growth and transition to now leading one of the most influential evangelical organizations in North America. Together, Dan and Mark reflect on what they've discovered about leadership when the path forward isn't clear.