Pastoral Suffering Is Spiritual Formation

Pastor: The church is not your client as a pastor. And it's so easy to slide into that mentality. As we suffer in the present and find our hope in the future, and we move all our chips out into the future. This is suffering is spiritual formation. We're forced out of selfish cost benefit calculations and transactional relationships. Our hearts become wonderfully broken just living in this world and pastoring people who areliving in this world.