Links
- Codecrafters (sponsor): https://tej.as
- Alex: https://www.lichter.io/
- Alex on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheAlexLichter
- Alex on X: https://x.com/TheAlexLichter
- VoidZero: https://voidzero.dev/
- Vite Plus: https://i.redd.it/l0d9yemja1pe1.jpeg
- Talk including VitePlus: https://youtube.com/watch?v=5mn3EpWCcJs&t=16353s
- Rolldown Vite: https://vite.dev/rolldown
- Oxc Custom Lint Plugins discussion: https://github.com/oxc-project/oxc/discussions/10342#discussioncomment-12828320
Previous Episode
- Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/alexander-lichter-how-to-get-the-most-out-of-vue-js-and-nuxt/id1731855333?i=1000678873395
- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5NdqcW2GnQ57IetEKD1dua
- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y32Ko_CkbAI
Summary
In this conversation, Alexander Lichter and I discuss the evolution of JavaScript tooling, focusing on the significance of VoidZero and Vite. We explore the need for a unified JavaScript toolchain, the challenges faced by existing tools like Webpack, and the importance of user experience in development tools. We also touch on the lessons learned from the Rome project and the future of VoidZero, including its funding and vision for open-source development.
Chapters
00:00:00 Alex Lichter
00:06:33 The Evolution of JavaScript Tooling
00:09:34 Understanding VoidZero and Its Purpose
00:12:15 The Need for a Unified JavaScript Toolchain
00:15:16 Vite: The Cornerstone of Modern Development
00:18:21 Comparing Vite and Webpack
00:21:17 User Experience in Development Tools
00:24:34 Lessons from Rome and Biome
00:27:14 Funding and Future of VoidZero
00:35:03 Introduction to Rolldown and Its Origins
00:36:00 Understanding Rolldown's Purpose and Features
00:39:34 The Transition from Rollup to Rolldown
00:42:46 The Need for Speed in Development
00:46:31 The Role of Plugins in Rolldown
00:49:53 OxLint: A Game Changer for Linting
00:57:33 Exploring the OxC Toolkit
00:59:48 Clarifying Relationships in the Toolchain
01:03:43 Type Checking Strategies and Future Directions
01:05:21 Understanding Isolated Declarations in TypeScript
01:06:20 Performance Comparison: OXC vs SWC
01:09:11 The Role of Code Formatting in Development
01:12:18 Extensibility and Plugin Architecture of OXC
01:15:21 Dev Server Performance and Cold Starts
01:21:35 The Role of Developer Relations at VoidZero
01:27:24 Encouraging Contributions from the Community
01:31:19 Collaboration Between Different Developer Communities
01:33:21 Future Prospects and Final Thoughts
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