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Ep. 35: Wilderness of Mirrors

The Re-Education with Eli Lake

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The United States and the Soviet Union in the Cold War

I think that espionage an intelligence come much, much more naturally to russians. And then certainly the russian and the soviet state permitted for a much more aggressive kind of intelligence gathering and surveillance. They were, i think, better at it. In a lot of ways. The c i a and another western intelligence agencies roll during the cold war was to, among other things, preempt the worst of soviet intentions. But but really it was to hold them off, i Think, and to try to, again, play defence with the expectation that the american idea, the western democratic idea, would ultimately prevail.

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