I want to come back to drive again. There's two sort of like sub-categories of this I want to get into. The first one is do people sort of like have drive and then reach a certain level and become complacent? I don't see that in the people that I work with, but I imagine maybe it's out there. When they reach a certain point, their companies are large, their state of affairs is fairly envious. And so they're on a mission to really actualize that drive.

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