Screening: Cash Flow vs. Enterprise Value

Jim and Abigail Zimmerman are a father-daughter investment team at Lowell Capital Management, combining Jim’s two decades of disciplined value investing since founding the firm in 2003 with Abby’s research-focused approach to identifying small-cap companies with fortress balance sheets and strong free cash flow generation.

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3:00 - Abby shares her first stock purchase of American Eagle in middle school, using it as a gateway to understanding that investing isn’t abstract but about owning real businesses and thinking like an owner.

5:21 - The Zimmermans explain their core philosophy: “simplicity is the ultimate sophistication,” emphasizing that fewer things need to go right in an investment, citing Peter Lynch’s principle that if you can’t explain what a company does to an 11-year-old in a sentence or two, you probably shouldn’t own it.

8:34 - Jim discusses their strategy of buying growth companies at value prices, explaining their best investments are companies trading at 5-6x EBITDA with no debt that possess sustainable moats allowing intrinsic value to compound over time.

12:00 - Discussion of the Sprouts Farmers Market case study, demonstrating how they identify turnaround situations where strong unit economics exist but the market hasn’t recognized the potential yet.

28:00 - Abby explains their disciplined selling process, particularly the importance of position sizing and their “20% trim rule” when stocks appreciate significantly to maintain portfolio balance.

35:00 - The team reveals their contrarian approach during market dislocations, specifically discussing how they deployed capital during the COVID crash by focusing on companies with fortress balance sheets.

42:00 - Jim shares wisdom from his father Lowell: live beneath your means, invest the excess, and build things over time - the Charlie Munger approach that shaped their entire investment philosophy.

51:00 - Discussion of free cash flow as the ultimate metric, with both emphasizing that businesses generating cash can survive any environment and capitalize on opportunities when competitors stumble.

57:05 - Abby defines success as alignment - living in a way that reflects what matters most, building something meaningful with family, and treating others well while maintaining disciplined investing even when unpopular.

1:00:24 - Bogumil adds perspective on wealth preservation across generations, noting the US uniquely allows both creation and multi-generational preservation of wealth.

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