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I want to thank you for doing the work. It's really great information. Really brave, too, to go in there and record people and get inside there. You're obviously got something deep inside of you. What would, you know, how do we help this? Where do you have hope here? Well,

I do have hope that the stigma is starting to drop a little bit, you know, like John and Charmaine, it was so, you know, it was hard for them to come here. But nowadays, there are so many people who've been affected by this crisis that that makes it easier for people to speak up. And even people in power, you know, politicians, judges, a lot of them know people who've been affected. So that's the, you know, one of the only silver linings. But really, like I said, you've got to talk to your kids. we have to start looking into treatment programs. I'm making a documentary about an underused treatment drug called naltrexone and basically it's like a force field, it's like a vaccine. So if you take this shot for 30 days you're protected you could take a whole syringe of heroin or fentanyl and it bounces off you, you know, but this drug has been kind of stymied by big money interests and almost nobody uses it. So we actually have these tools at our disposal but we're just not implementing them.

Very interesting stuff. Do you have a website or ways that we can track the work that you're doing? Yeah,

it's just benwestoff.com. Okay. Well,

thank you for your work. The book is Fentanyl Inc. You know, look, if you have young children or you know people that do, I think this is really an important topic. As I said before, we're trying out some new things here at the high wire. So right after this show, I'm going to sit down and we're going to put Ben and John and Charmaine in a seat altogether. I don't know that they've done that before and really get down to it. Is this an attack from China? Are they doing this on purpose? what do they think when we all think tank together? Is there a solution? That's all gonna be part of off the record.