Bioage - What Was It Like?

Bioage was founded on the idea that we can learn a lot about how humans age by studying, you know, the 8 billion examples all around us. So it's roughly what time now we're talking to. This is 2015. For 2020, late 2014, early 2015. And so there was at that point where you really, did you ever consider staying in academia? Potentially, but like sort of got further and further from that.