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Spelunking the Deep State with John Kiriakou

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The Reluctant Spy, Doing Time Like a Spy

John Kiriaku is the author of the Reluctant Spy, My Secret Life in the CIA's War on Terror. He says a large group of people that had previously never sniffed the world of politics came alive when Bernie Sanders ran in 2015 against Hillary Clinton. "A lot of people have been through the mill, watching their hearts, desires and their dreams and their hopes get smashed"

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