The Importance of Astonishment

There was plenty of motivation in itself but to see England celebrating they'd all been presented with MBE's or whatever they got yeah there was enough motivation how did that feel well I guess it depends which way you want to look at it. In 2005 if I'd said to you in 18 years time Australia would still be waiting for another series win in England or even going back to 2001 the series that you were part of when on winning Australia last one they ashes in this country what would you have said? "I don't know to be honest there was I knew it was sort of coming towards the end of an era myself and Shane were never going to tour England again"