In this episode, Chris sits down with legendary CEO and leadership thinker Dr. Klaus Kleinfeld for a deep dive into the hidden engine behind long-term success: energy. From running global companies like Siemens and Alcoa to mentoring the next generation of leaders, Klaus shares why burnout is not a badge of honor—and how purpose, mindset, and daily habits are the real levers of performance. This conversation is a masterclass on managing your inner game so you can lead with clarity, stamina, and conviction, no matter the chaos around you. Whether you’re a founder on the brink, a high-achiever running out of steam, or simply someone who wants to lead better and live fuller—this episode is your blueprint.

Timestamps: (00:04) – From Siemens to Startups: Klaus’s Career Journey

(03:50) – Burnout in Founders & Why Energy Is Everything

(15:22) – The Inner Game vs. The Outer Game of Leadership

(28:40) – The Purpose Principle: “Love It, Change It, or Leave It”

(37:15) – Culture, Respect, and Leading Across Borders

(45:09) – Sleep, Breathwork & Physical Hacks for High Energy

Check out Klaus Kleinfield: Klaus' LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/klauskleinfeld/

Klaus' Website: http://leading-to-thrive.com/

Check out Chris Do:

Website: ⁠https://zaap.bio/thechrisdo⁠

LinkedIn:⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/thechrisdo/⁠

Facebook:⁠https://www.facebook.com/BizOfDesign⁠

Urshan Pulpit Conference '22 - Brent Coltharp Wednesday Night

Urshan University

What's the Greatest Atrocity We Overlook?

The AI-powered Podcast Player