Pundit says he would defend any one of his character who found himself at the centre of a similar controversy. 'We want to live in a world where people offer sincere apologies and they are generally accepted' He adds: 'Forgiveness itself is one of our highest virtues... Forgiveness is a fucking miracle'
Sam responds to the controversy over his friend Joe Rogan's use of the N-word and his subsequent public apology.
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