I think we have to be extremely clear that tiwan is a red line for us, and that we are committed to the security of tiwan. If we show any hesitation or weakness there, they will, they will seize on that. And u would you ro o o that woodtrum put his foot down, because he did nothing when it came to supporting hong kong? i think we need to act away from any given president of the united states, because they change every four or eight years. Or are we the shining city on a hill once again? And if so, what are we willing to do to make sure that that's the case? I think that's independent...

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