What Are You Seeing for Someone That's Maybe Past Their First Deal?

Jonathan Sutter: I look at it like eating a pie or something. You've got to get really good at understanding how big your pie is. And the bigger you make it, the easier it is to share it with a lender or with another investor. He says he and his business partner have almost all of their payments that they make on loans from individuals instead of banks. "You can get a 4% interest rate down when that doesn't pay off"