The Outro of Josh Retreatry

Josh Retreatry is a new album from singer-songwriter John Cale. It's full of orchestral hits and other sounds that sound like they could be drum breaks. He says he was thinking about what good U2 records might sound like. "I like imagining what good music is and then trying to make it"

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In this episode, John catches up with Orlando Higginbottom, better known as Totally Enormous Extinct Dinosaurs or T.E.E.D, to talk about how he wrote, recorded and produced the album ‘When The Lights Go’.

Digging into the record almost 10 years in the making, Orlando talks us through his process of sorting through the piles of musical material he has created over the last decade, and how he developed each idea into a cohesive album.

As well as sharing production tips on vocal layering and utilising field recordings (notably coyote barks), Orlando reflects on his musical upbringing, discussing how the somewhat unattainable standards in classical music have impacted his work as an electronic producer.

Listen to find out why you should commit sounds when they are 75% right, how lyrics can be such a different commitment to a song, and why Orlando tried to create a U2 album without ever hearing U2.

Tracks discussed: Crosswalk, The Sleeper, Thugs

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Listen to ‘When The Lights Go’ here.