The Evolving Story of the CFO: Merging Numbers with Narrative

This chapter explores the changing responsibilities of CFOs, emphasizing the significance of storytelling in their roles. The speakers discuss how effective communication and relationship-building enhance financial offerings beyond mere numbers.

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The venture debt landscape has changed dramatically over the past few years, and CFOs can’t afford to be left behind. Catherine Jhung, Senior Managing Director at Hercules Capital and a seasoned expert in venture lending, joins CJ to explore the landscape of venture debt in 2025. Together, they unpack important questions for CFOs approaching lenders, the delicate balance between rate and flexibility, and a surprisingly overlooked use case for venture debt. You’ll also hear when not to raise debt, how to determine the right amount for your capital stack, what really separates banks from private debt funds, and the complex dance between VCs and debt providers. Plus, Catherine sheds light on the concept of capital as a commodity and how her early career in sales shaped her approach to selling the one thing every company needs: capital.

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LINKS:

Catherine Jhung on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/catherine-jhung-she-her-434732/

Hercules Capital:

https://www.htgc.com/

Ventured Growth: https://www.htgc.com/category/podcast/

CJ on X (@cjgustafson222): https://x.com/cjgustafson222

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