Dr. John Sutter: I wish I had talked to you about this 10 years ago, honestly. Give me a specific example of genius, genius systematized and then your work with this person. One of the most common ones that I talk about is Dr. Philip Ovedia's book Stay Off My Operating Table. He wanted to teach people about the link between their metabolic health and heart health because he was often operating on people who wouldn't need an open heart surgery.

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