Speaker 1
rights? So their budget is
Speaker 3
seven million euros, which I suspect for that division is a lot. But they're not allowed, don't forget, to they're not a professional club anymore. Right. So I don't know how he works for paying him. So is he
Speaker 1
doing another job at
Speaker 3
the same time? So either they're paying him wine or in food, I don't know, something, but they're not allowed to have a professional contract yet, which means I guess you can just, I mean, you can only pay them a certain maximum level. I don't know how he works actually, but yeah. All right. They must have found a where loophole or something to pay him because again, they're an amateur club. So he must be paid like bonuses and stuff, like amateurs are in France. Interesting.
Speaker 1
Seb, what was your moment of the weekend?
Speaker 4
Jimbo, Holstin Kiel, obviously they took a little bit of a shellacking to buy Munich a week ago, losing 6-1. They now have their first point in the Bundesliga, courtesy of a Schutte-Makina equalizer in the 89th minute against Bocken. And it's lovely actually because I think they've probably deserved a little more than they've got out of their game so far. And the headline the only reason anybody's really paid them attention is because of what Bayern did to them. But they've been playing well and finally they've got a bit of a reward. After 24 hours some Paulie got their own first point and sort of condemned them back to 18th place on goal difference. But let's ignore that. For 24 hours, they were 17th. Baby steps. We'll get more Bundesliga talk very shortly. James, your moment of the weekend. Well,
Speaker 2
I think it's Torino because they're top of the table and they're alone at the top for the first time in 41 years. They've got Paolo Vignoli as their coach, Vignoli who'd got Venezia up and then was upgraded if you like to Torino and they like that he Torino's a peril or suit sponsor is like an Italian high street brand called P. Ombo Lead yes, and so and so every time he stands on the sidelines they kind of say plata or P. Ombo no And he clearly goes for pionbo at the time. And he's killing it. So, Paolo Vannoli.
Speaker 3
But the first game, they played really well against Milan in the first game and we said after on the show, we said, wow, the football is great. Karina
Speaker 1
stuff. Alright, well let's get into the leagues. We're here from Paul Ballouce and his league moments of the week very shortly, but let's begin by saying please sir, can we have some cediar? This is the Totally Football Show with James Richardson, part of the Athletic FC Podcast Network. This
Speaker 1
Italy Milan finally win a Derby Roma sack there Ozzy and the side from Turin are top of the table, but not that side from Turin, Turino as you mentioned. James, let's begin with the Milan Derby because they'd lost six in a row of these fixtures. They looked abject against Liverpool. The previous midweek, while intro, looked pretty excellent against Man City. So this game really looked like a formality. What happened?
Speaker 2
Milan played well. They were quite bold in their approach. I mean it was a similar approach to what they had tried against Liverpool, where they set up in 4-4 4-2 against the ball and you had what Tammy Abraham and Alvaro Morata. So Morata came back into the team and they were the first team that I've seen that I've kind of really glitched this inter system in quite some time. I think inter were probably a little bit jaded and tired after playing Man City at the Etihad and playing really well in that game. And they didn't really have the same pressure and stakes going into this game as Milan had, because this was billed as make or break for Paolo Fonseca. And I think one of the criteria when he got the job was not only to make the team contend for the Scudetto, at least get closer to Inter, it was to beat Inter in the Deadby. They'd lost six in a row. Some of those Deadbys had been really harrowing for Milan, for example, losing in a Champions League semi-final. And then, obviously, last year, Inter clinched the Scudetto in the Deadby and they won their second star doing that. But Christian Pulisic has had a very good start to the season. He scored in his last five for club and country. He has had moments in games rather than putting in sustained performances. I thought he put in a sustained performance in this one. He could have scored before his goal and really in the second half, Milan's approach, I mean, they could have maybe scored three goals. Jans Sommar was his best player and you know Milan thoroughly deserved Matteo Gabbia's winner and so yeah I mean all
Speaker 1
of a sudden... Milan born or Milan born and bred? Oh Busto Assizio born and bred?
Speaker 2
Yeah and Matteo Gabbia, Gabbia, his name would translate as Matti Cage maybe and he's got his manager out of... How
Speaker 1
much time has he bought him do you think?
Speaker 2
Well I mean I found it quite interesting looking at the papers over the last few days because all of a sudden Milanche or Linteza Trafonseca... Milensee mio... Yeah there's like this is it this is lift off for Milan now. Let's see I think we do have to take into account that inter had come up against, you know Probably the best team in Europe in Man City and that's really exacting and so I'd reserve judgment on Milan just yet, but it's certainly the best way for Paulo Fonseca to respond to to the critics and to ease some of the pressure that was on him going into that game.
Speaker 1
Okay, next Friday the next City Ant game will be at home to Lece who were involved in one of the games. What a game! At home to Palmer, they're 2-0 up in the 90 second minute. The Lece player is through on goal, manages to blow the chance to make it 3-0. Parma then pull one back but look Lechi got a chance to make a 3-1. He blows that one as well and Parma end up throwing 2-2. Extraordinary scenes. Yeah actually that should have been maybe moment of the weekend. That was incredible because that was the late game on Saturday. Yeah it was an azure month. And I did think what city I'm thinking here, scheduling this as the late game, and yet it delivered. You would have put maybe Juventus Napoli. Yes!
Speaker 3
No, please, no!
Speaker 2
With Tom Adona playing number 10 for Napoli. He didn't actually have the number 10, he's got the number eight, but yeah, Antonio Conte. First time he's gone back to the Allianz Stadium when it's a sellout crowd, because when he was in charge of into it was in COVID and you know sort of Surprised everyone by playing with a back four. Mmm and Scott McTominay off Romelu Lukaku, which did look promising even though Didn't score he
Speaker 2
very busy. Yeah, I mean also just like receiving the ball on the turn and getting him behind the eventuses midfield Yeah, quite interesting to watch really in what was a very tactical game And I think Napoli probably leave with their they left the happier with it because As Conte said he'd been working on this new system and you know, he did some doubts in his mind as to whether it might glitch. And all of a sudden, Juventus would take advantage of that. Juventus didn't really create anything clear cut in that game. How
Speaker 1
much of an issue in your excellent round up piece, you kind of posit a post-game press conference in which Thiago Motta peels off the latex mast to reveal that he's actually a Ligri underneath because they're on this incredible run of not scoring goals. That's their third straight nil-nil in the league. First time that has happened actually since way before Ligri, since the days of Trap, Giovanni Trapettoni back in 1992. Their second from bottom for XG Serie A. They've actually scored about as half as much as they had this season, last season, sorry, under a leg. So not quite what they were expecting from Thiago Mota.
Speaker 2
No, I think, I mean, he was saying, look, we do everything right until we get into the final third. I mean, the flip side is that their defensive record is magnificent. They haven't conceded at all this season in the league, even when they conceded against PSV in the Champions' League. It was late, stoppage time and they were 3-0 up. So it's really hard to score on U of A. But if you look at last year, Bologna, and to be honest I'd forgotten about this, but more or less at the same stage of the season, they had 3- in a row. Really? And then it all kind of clicked. What brought it together? Well, I think finally being able to integrate some of their new signings, which is something that he's facing at Juventus now, because he had to wait until the end of the transfer window to get Nico Gonzalez and Ternkook Miners. So they're clearly working on the chemistry between those players and Dusan Vlyevich. I think the really interesting thing with Tiago Motta is that wherever he has gone, he has ended up sidelining your kind of orthodox striker. So for example, Spezia, that was a guy called Imbalen Zola, Bologna, more famously, Marko and Altavich. he ended up playing Zirksay. Zirksay was not nailed on to start when Motta took over. And I think if you watch Zirksay, he's such a silky player who seems to have like got Velcro on his boots instead of laces. And plays more like a midfield player who brings others into play can sort of carry the ball up the pitch. Vlijevic can't do really anything like that. But the problem is that they've spent all this money on midfield players who they're not playing, like Kefran Taram, like Douglas Louise. And people are beginning to say, maybe you should put some of that on another striker.
Speaker 1
So we'll see. Uwe were the only one of the five Italian sides in the Champions League to actually get a win last midweek That's three one over PSV. What a goal from Alessandro
Speaker 3
del yield is So
Speaker 1
there you know, there are there are signs of life there in the motto proper I guess yield
Speaker 3
these could play a bit like Xerxes maybe as a nine instead of Laovich and have a bit more of a different like More all-around forward approach than just a pure number nine.
Speaker 2
Yeah. And I mean,
Speaker 3
Mottou was making
Speaker 2
this point after the Napoli game. It's like, look, if we can't get in behind and we can't play into their penalty area, we do have players like Yieldy's who can score these goals from long distance and we should have been making more attempts like that. I know this is like a very kind of hot button issue in the Premier League about XG. No, just have a go, shoot from distance, make it happen. And that's kind of going on in City Out with Juventus, because they have scored three goals in three different games, against Verona, against Como, and against PSV. And in all of those games, they've scored these worldies, which are difficult to repeat but at the same time They are doing it on a fairly regular basis. So yeah, let's let's let's see I mean, it's maybe they will click as Bologna did. Okay.
Speaker 1
Well, let's finish off from City Alpha now with Roma who last week Felt a little bit out of the blue this fired manager. Danieli De Rossi the fans extremely unhappy. The team did respond with the first win of the season under their new manager, Ivan Urich. James, why and what's the latest on a very kind of tumultuous situation
Speaker 2
in Rome? Yeah, I mean the ultras said we're going to go back to our old ways. What did they mean? Just to be very hostile and I mean they're upset because you know Daniel De Rossi is a club legend he is more relatable to them than let's say Francesco Totti. You know Totti had this God-given talent it felt like he was a Martian being put down on Rome who just happened to play for Rome always De Rossi. You know they could see him in the cud of a soot with them, very much kind of an ultra in boots. So they feel like he's been mistreated. And I think the club would counter, look, it's one win in 13 games going back to last season. So results wise, it's not good enough. That's why we're making this decision. But then again, the club gave him a three-year contract in July. They've spent a million. A lot of those signings that they made arrived late in the transfer window, such as Manu Kone. And then even when the deadline day passed, they signed Mattu Humoz, Mario Hainemozo as well. So he had a lot of work to do with a belatedly assembled team. And they were winless in their first four games of the season. But they played creditably away at Juventus in a nil-nill. Okay, Juventus can't score against teams, but I think people gave credit for the way De Dossi set up the team. And even his last game against Genoa, they conceded this 96-minute equalizer. But going away to Genoa is difficult. I mean, interdrop points there, all the topsides struggle when they go there. So it felt like this was a little bit hasty, given you've given this guy a three-year contract and you've spent all of this money on players who've only just arrived and he's yet to really get to work with. And
Speaker 1
as you mentioned, because it breaks the bond that had been building through Mourinho and De Rossi's appointment with the ultras who registered their displeasure in pretty emphatic fashion at the training ground, also with reportedly threats to Roma's CEO who subsequently resigned over the press. Nobody knows why. I don't think that the supposition is that it was over the pressure she was facing.
Speaker 2
Yeah, I mean it was, it didn't really come as too much as a surprise that she left because I mean there were ultras who were showing up outside the training ground, getting out of their cars or hanging out of their cars and saying, where is she? Where is she? And then there was graffiti that was appearing in the city as well, which was saying exactly that as well. So yeah, that's not pleasant. And yes, she resigned on the day of the game. Ivan Urich, who just got the job, basically found out on TV that the person who had a big role in the point and game was gone. And even though Roma won, James, and they played pretty well against the league leaders at that time, Udieneze, the players went under the court of a suit at the end, the suit which had been empty for the first half an hour of the game, out of protest, they went under the suit and they were booed and whistled. So yeah, difficult environment for Roma going into Thursday's Europa League opener against Athletic Club de Bilbao.
Speaker 1
Them, no right. We'll hear about how they got on this weekend, what's that called, three, a little bit later when we catch up with Paul Ballouce. But when you say the club and what the club did with de Rossi, of course, this is the Freakins who are poised to finalise their acquisition of Everton. They put out a statement saying, we remain active investors in the sports industry. We love the beautiful game. So there's that. The multi club symbiosis will only help Roma, say the Freakins. club in our portfolio operates independently. I'm not sure how those two things Marry, but they are consecutive sentences. Anyway, I imagine that's one area of concern for the Romani ste.