The first 25 episodes were me trying to get people to commit and then sending them headsets. I hav my own pa casting team. After the robin hood episodes, and that whole thing where we had th that hole when robin hood shut down, trading yatyat,. Then flad came on the pod, the pi kiss went like five or ten that week. And then friedberg and sax and chamathi, think for the first time, got a taste of what it's like to do something you ani have experienced. The episode hit number forty two on all podcast episodes in the world, which is mine.