Defining the 'Don't Give a Damn' Era

Just a heads-up that in this episode we talk about late miscarriage. I am so grateful to Kelly for opening up about something that affects and speaks to so many of us - it’s a beautiful conversation but if you’re feeling tender around those issues for whatever reason, we’ve put in the time-stamps below in case you need to skip that bit.

 Kelly is a woman whose career has reflected the shifting tides of the British media landscape: from finding fame as a glamour model in the 90s, and being voted FHM’s sexiest woman in the world on more than one occasion; she later made the move into presenting and acting. Now it's also just been revealed that she'll take part in this year's I'm a Celebrity… Get Me Out of Here!

In her first interview since that announcement, Kelly joins me for an honest and moving conversation about the pitfalls of fame, finding true love and she gives an extraordinarily vulnerable insight into her own fertility journey and her decision not to have children. Plus; how working on her own self-worth has brought her new happiness. An inspiration!

✨ IN THIS EPISODE:

00:00 Introduction

02:05 Marriage

05:28 Joining 'I'm a Celebrity'

06:52 Preparing for the Jungle

10:56 Reflecting on Success and Failure

25:28 Navigating Personal Growth and Boundaries

26:39 Romantic Relationships and Sacrifices

31:36 Dealing with Loss and Grief

33:31 Body Image and Societal Pressures

35:55 The Pain of Miscarriage

46:39 Embracing Authenticity and Moving Forward

💬 QUOTES TO REMEMBER:

‘ Being sexualised at such a young age was very uncomfortable.’  

‘ I came from a very normal working class background, but success came to me very quickly.’

‘ I think we are living in such a beautiful time where we can just be our authentic selves.’

🔗 LINKS + MENTIONS:

Kelly is on I’m a Celebrity… Get Me Out of Here! 2025 - watch on ITVX

Join the How To Fail community: https://howtofail.supportingcast.fm/#content

Elizabeth’s Substack: https://theelizabethday.substack.com/

Kelly’s reading:

‘Confidence over consensus,

Doing what feels right, and not what's expected of you

 Freedom over fear,

Saying no without guilt, and yes without hesitation,

Creative boldness, experimenting, breaking down your own rules and,

Not caring if everyone gets it.’

📚 WANT MORE?

Louise Thompson - on advocating for yourself, dealing with PTSD and radically redefining a healthy body swap.fm/l/LouiseThompson

Dolly Alderton – on Everything She Knows About Love https://link.chtbl.com/5pFApeKP

Vogue Williams - on friendship failures, being kicked out of school and being a woman in a male-dominated world swap.fm/l/KdIrVp0y41qgun1oGjfR

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