The Iowa governor is trying to make it harder for state sponsor health clinics and doctors to let parents who decide to vaccinate their kids find a vaccine that couldn't be more anti g o p. I think he's just just playing for the cameras, says former navy lawyer John Avlon. The more badshet extreme you can be, that's been conflated with leadership said Avlon. "People are so upset and so angry and so polarized now they want someone who they see is fearless in motcho"
Twitter's board gives Elon's bid the go-ahead, the Obamas ditch Spotify for Amazon, and TikTok denies that it's sending data to China, even as reporting says otherwise. Kara and Scott speak with MSNBC's Katy Tur about cable news, Trump, and her new memoir, Rough Draft.
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*An earlier version of the episode referred to Vanessa Pappas as the CEO of TikTok. She is the COO. We regret the error.
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