Hiring approach: hire slow, fire fast, train early

In this episode of the Grow A Small Business Podcast, host Troy Trewin interviews John Ferguson, founder of Hobart Gutter Guard Co., shares his journey from working in community services to building a $500K lifestyle business. Starting as a side hustle in 2018, he grew the company through smart systems, clear SOPs, and delegation. By hiring a virtual assistant and automating operations, John reduced his workload to just two hours a week. After selling half the business, he now focuses on expanding the model across Australia. His story is a powerful example of how vision, structure, and marketing mastery can turn a small local business into a scalable success. Why would you wait any longer to start living the lifestyle you signed up for? Balance your health, wealth, relationships and business growth. And focus your time and energy and make the most of this year. Let's get into it by clicking here.

Troy delves into our guest's startup journey, their perception of success, industry reconsideration, and the pivotal stress point during business expansion. They discuss the joys of small business growth, vital entrepreneurial habits, and strategies for team building, encompassing wins, blunders, and invaluable advice. And a snapshot of the final five Grow A Small Business Questions:

1. What do you think is the hardest thing in growing a small business? According to John Ferguson, the hardest thing in growing a small business is the isolation and loneliness that come with being a solopreneur. He explained that working alone – especially on tasks like marketing, sales copy, and SEO—can feel isolating because there's no one to share wins or frustrations with. That lack of daily collaboration makes it challenging to stay motivated and balanced while managing all aspects of the business.

2. What's your favorite business book that has helped you the most? John Ferguson mentioned that his favorite business book that helped him the most is "Sell Like Crazy" by Sabri Suby. He said it's the best sales book he's ever read, providing powerful insights into marketing, sales psychology, and conversion strategies. The book helped him sharpen his approach to attracting and converting customers, which played a key role in growing Hobart Gutter Guard Co. into a highly profitable business.

3. Are there any great podcasts or online learning resources you'd recommend to help grow a small business? John Ferguson recommends listening to SEO and Google Ads podcasts to stay sharp on digital marketing, as these have been key in his business growth. He also listens to the Grow a Small Business Podcast and other interview-style shows to learn from real entrepreneurs' journeys. For learning, he prefers YouTube tutorials and audiobooks over formal courses, as they allow him to study while working or driving. Ferguson believes that consistent self-learning through podcasts and online resources is essential for any small business owner wanting to improve marketing, systems, and overall growth.

4. What tool or resource would you recommend to grow a small business? John Ferguson recommends using a CRM and pipeline management tool as the most powerful resource for growing a small business. He believes having an all-in-one platform that combines lead tracking, automation, and communication can completely transform operations. Instead of juggling multiple apps, a single integrated system helps manage customers, streamline workflows, and improve response times, especially for service-based businesses. Ferguson credits this approach for saving him hours of manual work each week and making his business more efficient, scalable, and profitable.

5. What advice would you give yourself on day one of starting out in business? John Ferguson's advice to his day-one self would be to keep everything simple — from the business model and offer to the systems and operations. He believes simplicity creates clarity, reduces stress, and makes scaling easier. Ferguson explained that many entrepreneurs overcomplicate their processes with unnecessary tools and jargon, which slows growth. His biggest lesson is that a simple, repeatable system and a clear vision are far more powerful than a complex setup, and that focusing on doing the basics exceptionally well is the real key to long-term success.

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Quotable quotes from our special Grow A Small Business podcast guest: Keep your business simple, repeatable, and clear to create real growth — John Ferguson

Freedom in business comes from systems, not endless hours of work — John Ferguson

Success isn't about doing everything yourself, it's about building a process that runs without you — John Ferguson