The Long Run Future of a Society

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Inequality is always going to be there, i don't mean to imply that equality of outcome is not a goal worth pursuing. Some communities of descendants of slaves are going to continue to be much poorer than the rest of a society and we can't do anything about that. But it's something we will naturally do until we have substantial equality of achievement in various domains. And like i said, it's never possible to get full equality because the tension between equality and liberty is too great. We should move there with public policy on the basis of class,. income and so forth, so that we get a society where people rarely think of a person's race or gender as being different from others

Coleman Hughes is the host of Conversations with Coleman. Racialized, his first book, is forthcoming from Penguin Random House.

In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Coleman Hughes discuss how we can remain vigilant about racial injustice without treating others differently on account of their race; whether reparations for slavery are justified in theory and workable in practice; and how we should measure progress on race.

This transcript has been condensed and lightly edited for clarity.

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