Dr. Merle Haggard: I'm training pastors first and foremost. He says he is more concerned about the city of God than the city of man. "I do believe we're down to issues of deep and daunting division in the United States" But, he adds, there are no assurances that America will survive.
Why we can’t understand this moment in politics without first understanding the transformation of American evangelicalism.
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