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3: Alan Milburn: Can the NHS be saved?

The Rest Is Politics: Leading

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How Did That Work for You in Health With Gordon Brown?

I think if Gordon had had his way, we wouldn't have had foundation hospitals. I got to the point in the end where there was sort of deep treasury obstructionism," he says. The big debate wasn't really about that - it was a mechanistic argument over locus of control for hospital funding and so on. And what really helped me actually psychologically, as much as politically, was my own insight that I didn't want to do the things that some journalists were writing about me. He adds: "It was a very liberating thing"

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